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(04/03/1992) Atlantis vs. La Fiera (CMLL)

Atlantis vs. La Fiera
NWA World Middleweight

Year: 1992
Type:  Title Match Style
Other: n/a


Originally this was match was to be Atlantis vs. Bestia Salvaje with Salvaje – who was being pushed heavily in 1992 with two hair wins already under his belt – ending Atlantis’ long title reign. Unfortunately, Salvaje blew out his knee after they set up this match for the Arena Mexico Anniversary show and Fiera was substituted in his place. Unlike Salvaje, Fiera was not being pushed hard at the time, resulting in a match where Altantis was clearly and consistently portrayed as being at least one level above his opponent. There is some action in this match while at the very least, the structure provides for an interesting and unique match.

Additional Reading:

  • Cross Arm Breaker Review 
  • PWO Discussion Thread
  • RSPW (Dave Fields) Recap
  • Ohtani’s Jacket Review
  • Lucha Libre Weekly (April 14, 1992)
  • Wrestling Observer Newsletter (April 20, 1992)


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(10/01/1993) Atlantis vs. Mano Negra (CMLL)

atlantis vs. mano negra
Mask vs. mask

Year: 1993
Type: Mask vs. Mask
Other: n/a


CMLL seemed to be heading towards an Oro versus Mano Negra mask match in early 1993, but as the story goes Oro made it known that he wished to spend more time at home and planned on cutting back on his career as a luchador. Atlantis was given Mano Negra’s mask instead to ensure it would go to a wrestler who would be around long-term. This is the least of the major Atlantis’ mask matches and by a healthy margin. Mano Negra never appears to pose much of a threat and his offense during the first two falls is uninspired. Not a bad match, but certainly not a memorable one besides for the stipulation and the fact that it is Atlantis in a mask match.

Additional Reading:

  • Cross Arm Break Review
  • Wrestling Observer Newsletter Recap (October 11, 1993)


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Blue Panther vs. Atlantis (CMLL – 07/11/2008)

Blue Panther vs. Atlantis
July 11, 2008
** 3/4

Atlantis and Blue Panther wrestled a pair of very good matches in the 1990’s – a title match in 1991 and the finals of the Copa Victoria in December 1997. This go around Atlantis and Panther were paired up in celebration of Atlantis’ twenty five years in lucha libre. Matches that are booked with the sole purpose to celebrate or commemorate tend to come off as exhibitions. I feel like the issue holding back the ’91 and ’97 matches from hitting that next level was that they lacked a sense of importance or legitimate intensity. Given the setup for this one, it appeared as if it would suffer from the same issue at least as much as the prior two matches if not far more so.

The first two falls have a lot to like. Fall one is essentially Atlantis and Panther working their maestro match and working it at a high level. The pacing, quickness, and quality of offense is no worse than on the same level of what Solar and Negro Navarro were doing in their matches at or around the same time. Quick pace matches with equal parts mat work and fast takedowns have always been Panther’s forte so he shines in the first fall. Atlantis was every bit his equal. In his prime, there were few wrestlers as smooth as Atlantis and even in his 26th year as a luchador, he was still able to show flashes of that brilliance. It was the kind of fall that gets my mind racing and thinking about how I might be in the midst of watching an excellent match that I didn’t know was excellence, which is really the ultimate wrestling viewing experience.

The second fall did not do much to diminish those high hopes. It was a short fall with more rope running than the first, but all of which played to Panther and Atlantis’ strengths of quick, fluid wrestling on or off the mat. That continued into the second fall and at least at times in the third fall. All the roll ups and takedowns were spot on, as were the submissions. Panther ended the second fall with his twisting arm scissors hold that looked as awesome as always, although the referee did a poor job signaling that Panther had won the fall.

Had Atlantis and Panther done a variation of the first falls just with ramped up high spots for the decisive fall, I think this would have been a very good match. It might have even ended up as comparable to their more well-regarded matches from the prior decade, particularly if you discount just a little for age.

They hit the ropes right away to start the third with Atlantis getting the better of the exchange thanks a tope. No complaint there; Atlantis has a great tope. I am fairly sure the match is clipped at this point as they come back from a replay of the dive and suddenly both wrestlers are in the ring and selling in a way that does add up to what they have done so far. In any event, the match immediately goes into near fall mode and it just felt too soon. The transition from the work and pace of the first falls to the pace of the third fall as virtually non-existent. It threw me off somewhat and although there was good stuff in the third fall on a standalone basis, it felt like they were lacking a rhythm.

The good stuff in the final fall was largely submission related. I loved Atlantis working through an abdominal stretch, octopus hold, and full nelson (while on Panther’s back) in the same fluid sequence. The quick pinning attempts that were a highlight of earlier falls were still highlights here, although you could see both guys running out of gas by the end. We also got a Blue Panther tope in the third fall. So while all was not lost, the fall felt very disjointed to me and that was mainly because the nice tempo they established earlier in the match was disposed of in the third fall. I was more or less ready for the match to be done a couple of minutes before it wrapped up which obviously does not bode well. It wasn’t that it was a terrible fall or a bad match they just reached the point where it was clear the action was regressing rather building.

CMLL during this time period was a strange beast and this was a strange match. Atlantis was a rudo at this point and I can never get used to him wearing black and/or silver rather than his trademark blue and white. Two months after this match, Panther dropped his mask to Villano V which officially moved him from regular roster member to past-his-prime legend, at least in my eyes. I am glad we got this before both wrestlers were too old to have this type of match (i.e. something resembling their heyday work only a bit slower) but as an overall match, it was missing a quality third fall. I would have preferred they worked it all maestro style because that seemed like a good hook. Instead we got a standard 2000’s era CMLL mano a mano fall which left me underwhelmed especially compared to what they did in the prior falls.

Atlantis vs. Mano Negra (CMLL – 10/01/1993)

Atlantis vs. Mano Negra
October 1, 1993
Mask vs. Mask
** 1/2

What an unsatisfying mask match this one ended up being.

There was a healthy dose of pre-match festivities to kick things off. First, a lengthy video package that started with old still photos before moving into video recaps of the last five Anniversary Shows, specifically the apuesta matches on those cards. The video graphic running down Atlantis and Mano Negra’s apuesta match history appears to be exaggerated, at least as it concerns Atlantis. Negra had been wrestling since 1971 so I can buy that he won 40 apuesta matches, especially since 75% of them are listed on the graphic as hair matches. Atlantis’ fifteen masks and thirteen hairs over what had been a ten to twelve year career by that point (the graphic indicated twelve) seems exaggerated but maybe not.

The rudo Mano Negra controls the first fall after getting the jump on Atlantis at the bell. He spends much of the fall trying to get heat on Atlantis in the usual ways – mask ripping, using the ropes to his advantage, going to the eyes. His offense lacked any sort of oomph. Mano Negra appeared to be washed up by 1993 and just wasn’t up the task of getting the match off to as intense of a start as it warranted. He did draw decent heat whenever he played to the crowd, but his offense was just so plain. Atlantis made a couple of short comebacks that were cut off, before catching his opponent in the Atlantida for the automatic submission. I am not a big fan of structuring where the underdog rudo controlled the entire first fall only to drop it in the end. The way the fall played out did little to add to the drama of the next two falls and might have detracted from it.

Since Mano Negra was in so little trouble in the first fall, it was no surprise that he quickly cut off Atlantis at the start of the second fall to resume control. They continue down the same path as the first fall – basic submission attempts and heat seeking from Mano Negra – building to a spot where Atlantis comes off the top rope with a double axe handle only to be caught by an intentional low blow. The referee misses it (he was in the right position to miss it) and Mano Negra takes advantage by picking up a pin to take the second fall.

At this point, Mano Negra has taken much of the match that yet he lost the first fall decisively and took the second via a missed foul. Maybe I am nitpicking too much and maybe Negra was not the underdog at the time that I view him as while watching this match. However, he did go from feuding with Oro who while very talented, was still an up-and-comer to headlining the Anniversary show against the biggest star CMLL had that didn’t jump to AAA. It is hard for me to buy into him as having much of a chance here, a point which was only heightened by how ineffectual he appeared after two first falls.

CMLL was seemingly unconcerned about keeping Mano Negra strong in anyway as the third fall was over in a blink of an eye. Atlantis started the fall outside the ring as he continued to shake off the effects of the foul. As soon as he got back into the ring, he was met with a clothesline. He got right back up and caught Mano Negra in the Atlantida once again for the quick submission victory.

The booking and layout confuses me because I am not sure what it was supposed to accomplish. If the idea was to have Atlantis go over strong, then why waste time with Mano Negra controlling so much of the first fall? Why not do two straight or move the foul finish to the first fall with Atlantis firing off to straight convincing falls to take the match? If the idea was to work a competitive match, they certainly fell short as Negra lost a fall he had all the offense in, barely one won off of a missed foul, and dropped the third in short order even though Atlantis was still shaking off the effects of the low blow. Had Mano Negra gone over convincingly in the first fall it would have at least made it feel like a bit more competitive of a match.

Of the Atlantis mask matches that are available, this is most certainly the weakest. The Kung Fu match is no great shakes but is above this. The ’89 tag and Ultimo Guerrero ones are also well above this and it is not even worth mentioning the La Sombra and Villano III matches in the same breath. We do not have the Talisman or Hombre Bala matches but the Talisman one is a match that at least as a good chance of appearing out of the blue one of these days. Two other matches from the 51st Anniversary card are in circulation (MS-1/Sangre Chicana hair re-match and Canek/Cien Caras title match) so it would stand to reason the Talisman/Atlantis mask exists out there somewhere. Anyway, a rare miss for one of the more prolific mask match wrestlers in history.

2016 Gran Alternativa Block A (CMLL – 03/22/2016)

2016 Gran Alternativa Block A
March 22, 2016
Arena Mexico (Mexico City, Mexico)
** ½

CMLL tournament matches are so short that I think it makes sense to look at the tournament (or in this case, one block) in its entirety.

The Block A of this year’s Gran Alternativa tournament (a tag tournament where a CMLL veteran is paired with a “newcomer”) was the usual mix of legit newcomers and guys that are far more of a stretch for the newbie label. Triton is a former trios champion and Super Halcon Jr. has been in CMLL fulltime since 2011. Rocky Casas, Cuatrero, Magia Blanca, and Fujin fit the spirit of the tournament while Oro Jr. and Flyer are close enough. Of the youngsters, Cuatrero looked the best as he and his brother continue to impress. Magia Blanca was fine too and I like the Magnifico I stuff I have seen from Cara Lucha.

On the flip side, Rocky Casas is not ready for Arena Coliseo de Coacalco nonetheless Arena Mexico. He has a good look – he looks like a Casas – but his strikes were cringe worthy and he clearly was not comfortable moving around the ring. Speaking of not comfortable moving around the ring, Fujin is still trying to find the luchador within. He has some spots now but there is still a noticeable drop in fluidity between his young lion work in New Japan and his brief stay in CMLL. He also tended to overact when engaged in anything lighthearted in this match. I am sure he will get there at some point.

The highlight was probably Rey Escorpion who bumped his way through three tournament matches. He is a great base and a great catcher, both of which were on display here. He and Fujin looked good as a team visually and were the right choice to advance to the finals.